I want something similar to the FireTV 4K, but faster, double the memory, and keep the built-in ethernet connector. The newer versions are dopping ethernet ports, and they are trying to add Alexa in instead of making a version with a faster processor or more memory. FireTV's problem is they were great when they were released several years ago, but the spec's haven't kept pace. Unless they've changed, they were way more locked down that the alternatives (other than Apple) and so were not popular in the 'alternative use' market. Roku's are very popular, but not very open or flexible to other things with them. 8GB doesn't go far when you start installing a bunch of apps or have Kodi installed. My only problem is they are a bit short on memory. apk's to them still, so they are widely popular for cheap Kodi boxes. The reason I think the FireTV still has an edge is that you can sideload android.

It's a shame that Amazon dropped the ADB support, I did not hear about this (that sucks!). The Fire Stick is definately slower than the standard FireTV box, are you referring to the stick when doing a comparison, or is Roku that much smoother (even compared to the normal FireTV box)? Having not used a Roku before, I've not compared them. I have several FireTV 4K's, and I don't notice too big of a speed problem with them. FireTV's do have a few glitches that require reboot from time to time (not related to controlling them).

Flirc roku